Podcasts

S1E3 – Nothing to Cure Here: Rewriting the Narrative about Autism

21st November 2025

In this episode of Included Not Excluded, BeyondAutism CEO Tracie Coultas-Pitman is joined by neurodivergent health entrepreneur, strategist, and change leader Victoria Burnip and award-winning consultant, trainer, and psychotherapist Dr Tony Lloyd. They discuss why cause and cure narratives are damaging, shifting the conversation to one of inclusivity and highlighting the practical steps teachers, SENCO and policymakers can take to improve outcomes for autistic learners.

Episode drops 21 November